169. Sally Helgesen – Rising Together

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The best assessment tool is to listen to your people. They talk about “we” when they’re talking about the organization – you’re on pretty good track to have an inclusive culture. If they talk about “they” you don’t have it. Save your money. Don’t do an assessment and just listen to how people talk.

Sally Helgesen, cited in Forbes as the world’s premier expert on women’s leadership, is an internationally best-selling author, speaker and leadership coach. She has been inducted into the Thinkers 50 Hall of Fame, which honors those whose ideas have shaped the field of leadership worldwide. She is ranked number 3 among the world’s thought leaders by Global Gurus.

Sally’s latest book, Rising Together: How We Can Bridge Divides and Create a More Inclusive Workplace, offers practical ways to build more inclusive relationships, teams, and workplaces.

Rising Together builds on Sally’s remarkable success with How Women Rise, co-authored with legendary executive coach Marshall Goldsmith, which examines the behaviors most likely to get in the way of successful women as they move forward in their careers. Rights have been sold in 23 languages.

Other books include The Female Advantage: Women’s Ways of Leadership, hailed as the classic in its field and continuously in print since 1990, and The Web of Inclusion: A New Architecture for Building Great Organizations, cited in The Wall Street Journal as one of the best books on leadership of all time and credited with bringing the language of inclusion into business.

For over 30 years, Sally has delivered seminars, workshops and keynotes for companies, partnership firms and associations around the world, working in 37 countries.

R.O.G. Takeaway Tips:

  • Build relationships with people different than ourselves.
  • Give people the benefit of our good will.
  • Build networks, not grapevines.
  • How are you engaging in inclusive leadership? Are people being seen, heard and valued? 
  • Do your team members use “we” or “they”? 
  • Establish boundaries. 
  • Actively listen.
  • Follow up with people. 
  • Actively promote and celebrate others. 


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Sally Helgesen, Sheep Jam Productions, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.

Coming Next: Please join us next week, Episode 170, with Shannon Cassidy for a Generous Leadership Coaching Tip.

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